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Gun Buying Post Updated

I’ve updated the article Gun Buying for the Paranoid that was put together a few years back to reflect recent law changes.

I hope it helps clear up questions you may have around who in both the state and federal governments has information about your firearms purchases.

2015 Law Changes for WA State

This past Tuesday the citizens of Washington state decided to make some serious law changes towards firearms in their(my) state. Now if you know me, I’m not a gun rallying, right winger who hates Obama and thinks the government is out to get him. I don’t support or care about any specific political party and when it comes to gun laws I work around common sense and I research everything. I don’t assume the NRA knows what its talking about, just like I don’t assume any anti-gun or anti-NRA people know what they are talking about. Most of all of them don’t…they have political agendas.

I was disappointed by how people chose not to really understand what these changes made and just voted with what the mass marketing said. I will say the marketing for 594 and against 591 was really good and disguised a lot of the real issues at stake. I’ve always enjoyed WA from a firearms stand point as it sits in a pretty middle of the road spot and its citizen seem concerned about the ability to legally arm themselves with really good concealed carry laws and the way firearms sales and transfers works was really good.

It didn’t help that measure 594 and 591 were somewhat contradictory, but nobody bothered to read the things in their entirety and really understand what they meant.

There are a couple posts on this site that tend to get linked a lot that relate to laws in Washington as well as federally. I will work through updating any of those that need it over the next few days with any of the upcoming changes the voters chose to put in place.

I’m not going to rattle off everything I hate or love about measure 594 and 591, there’s 30 websites doing that. And if you want to really understand what they mean, do what you should have done BEFORE YOU VOTED, go read the actual. Bills/Measures/Amendments are always publicly available on numerous non-bias web sites. At this point its not worth crying about, the laws are set in motion. So for the time being here we are.

Pay extra close attention to the rights we’ve now given up around the governments requirements to follow due process. We kinda gave a lot of that up in regards to firearms.

As a dealer I think the critical thing now is for you to understand how this effects you the gun buyer or seller in the state of Washington. So I will be updating the Gun Laws in Wa post on this site as well as the Gun Buying for the Paranoid in hopes to help shed some light on that.

Washington: Freedom Prevails in Olympia – Anti-Gun Legislation Dead for 2013

Taken from an ILA E-Mail I just received:

“Freedom has prevailed again in Olympia! Yesterday was the deadline for legislation to be voted out of its chamber of origin. Thanks to your hard work and relentless opposition, House Bill 1588 failed to come up for a vote on the House floor. The fate of the so-called “universal background check” legislation and your rights came down to the wire.
On Tuesday, the state House of Representatives came to a halt for more than seven hours as House Democrats tried to round up enough votes to pass this anti-gun measure. As NRA-ILA previously reported, HB 1588 could have criminalized all private sales of firearms.

HB 1588, introduced by state Representative Jamie Pederson (D-43), was nothing more than a regulatory scheme that would have created a huge burden for law-abiding citizens, been unenforceable, and ignored by criminals. This bill was nothing more than a precursor to Universal Firearm REGISTRATION.

Your participation in the legislative process was essential to this victory! Although your Second Amendment rights were defended in Olympia during this round, the attack on your inherent right to self-defense and right to keep and bear arms is far from over. Gun owners and sportsmen must remain vigilant in order to preserve our freedoms!
The following anti-gun bills are also dead for this session:
House Bill 1676, introduced by state Representative Ruth Kagi (D-32), a so-called “child access prevention” bill which would have singled out the storage of firearms for criminalization under certain circumstances.
House Bill 1703, introduced by state Representative Laurie Jinkins (D-27), would have levied an outrageous tax on all firearm and ammunition purchases to create more bureaucracy in the form of a “firearm safety” education program.
Senate Bill 5737, introduced by state Senators Ed Murray (D-43) and Jeanne Kohl-Welles (D-36), would have banned commonly owned firearms mischaracterized as “assault weapons” and magazines that hold more than ten rounds. This extreme measure would have also allowed in-home inspections by law enforcement.

HB 1588 – WA Universal Background Checks Bill

For those of you who are following upcoming federal and state gun legislation changes, HB 1588 has been introduced sponsored by state representatives Jamie Pederson (D-43), Mike Hope (R-44) and 36 other state representatives that will require Universal Background checks for Wa State.

In short this bill (if passed) will require all private sales of any firearm to friends or family, or anyone else, to go through a Federal Licensed Firearm Dealer. This also will impact gun shows which ride on the “private transfer” laws to avoid background checks at gun shows.

This law also introduces a $20 tax to be paid on all transfers. Note this would be above and beyond standard dealer transfer fees of all weapons. This Bill also does not note that the “conceal weapons permit” holders of Washington state ability to avoid the standard pistol waiting period will be extended into the new law. So the assumption is that it will go away.

While it “sounds” great for dealers who will suddenly have a lot more business, its really more paperwork, more cost and as some feel the first step to universal gun registration.

On Wed Feb 13th there is a public hearing at 8am in the House Hearing Room A of John L. O’Brien building in Olympia Washington. You can attend this hearing and voice your opinion.

Read the law here:

Why American Citizens Need Assault Weapons

An excellent article by Legal Defense Network President Marty Hayes, J.D.

Definitely worth a read no matter which side of the camp you are on.


FBI FFL/NICS Site *new*

The FBI has released a new web site for FFL (Federal Firearms License) information. There’s some good information out there if you are wondering how the NICS or FFL system works.


You can also read the article I posted awhile back for other information pertaining to firearm purchasing.

Gun Buying for the Paranoid.

HR822 and the Senate (National Right to Carry)

I’ve gotten a couple emails recently asking “when does hr 822 go to the senate?”

Actually H.R. 822 went to the Senate right after it passed in the House, however, the true next step is to get the bill out of the Senate Judiciary Committee. To do that a hearing is required, and currently there are no hearings scheduled for it but you can watch it at that link.

Remember the Senate is made up of a large number of anti-gun people so it will be difficult for any type of gun law to make it through the committee. If the committee does approve a Senate vote on H.R. 822 then Harry Reid will decide if it makes to a the Senate Floor for a vote.

Anti-Gun Senators that would most likely shoot this down:

Patrick J. Leahy
Chairman, D-Vermont

Herb Kohl

Chuck Grassley
Ranking Member, R-Iowa

Dianne Feinstein

Orrin G. Hatch

Chuck Schumer
D-New York

Jon Kyl

Dick Durbin

Jeff Sessions

Sheldon Whitehouse
D-Rhode Island

Lindsey Graham
R-South Carolina

Amy Klobuchar

John Cornyn

Al Franken

Michael S. Lee

Christopher A. Coons

Tom Coburn

Richard Blumenthal

US House Passes H.R. 822

The U.S. House of Representatives has passed an important self-defense measure that would enable millions of Right-to-Carry permit holders across the country to carry concealed firearms while traveling outside their home states. H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, passed by a majority bipartisan vote of 272 to 154. All amendments aimed to weaken or damage the integrity of this bill were defeated.

This bill does not affect existing state laws. State laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within each state’s borders. H.R. 822 does not create a federal licensing system or impose federal standards on state permits; rather, it requires the states to recognize each others’ carry permits, just as they recognize drivers’ licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards

Silencers Legal to use/own in WA State

I updated my article on Silencers due to a change I didn’t notice even happened in April of this year. House Bill 1016 signed in by the house and the senate of washington this year legalizes the use over silenced weapons. This is a great change in Washingtons usual conservative view on firearms ownership. You still need a Class 3 dealer to do the transfer for you as the federal government considers these Type 2 items. This will require a $200 SOT fee to the BATF as well as the dealer transfer fees, plus WA state tax. Type 2 weapons also require fingerprints and a 2×2 photo be attached to every transfer document. So if you are prepared and have the cash its now legal to get one.

If you already have one, or moved into state already owning one, you are all set, its legal to have on your gun now.

HB Change: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202011/1016.SL.pdf
Eaglefirearms Article: http://eaglefirearms.com/?page_id=9

Conceal Carry in 34+ states anyone?

[New update 5.27.2012] on how to add the state of Arizona and pick up 3 more states coming soon, i should have my AZ in a few weeks.

How would you like to be able to legally conceal carry in over 34 states nationwide? Washington and Oregon residence in the Portland/Vancouver general regions listen up! By correctly obtaining specific out of state permits you can use their reciprocal agreements as well as “general accepted” overlap between states to increase your ability to carry concealed in more locations.

As a concealed handgun permit holder you should really try to ensure that you have a permit to carry in all states that touch your border. For me in Washington I really wanted Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming where I tend to travel a lot…but the more states the merrier right?

Recently I met Larry Raglione at CFP Utah. Larry is a 30+ year police officer and has numerous training certifications and licenses for the BCI, NRA, etc… Larry and his partners are licensed instructors for numerous states to offer the training classes required to get resident and non-resident conceal carry permits in numerous states. Larry travels around and offers these courses out of places like Wholesale Sports, and various locations. He will even do a private training if you and 10 or more friends are interested.

Here’s what I did. I attended Larrys class recently at Wholesale Sports and in a few hours he had not only walked me and 10 others through the required training class but he helped complete all the paperwork, passport photos and fingerprinting so that I can obtain my Florida and Utah non-resident conceal carry permits. Now, I already have Oregon’s and Washingtons but part of the class I was in includes Oregon for Washington residents.

Was it worth it? Absolutely. Not only is Larry an entertaining, well educated and fun instructor, but they provide and help complete all the required paperwork in the states you chose to apply in. This was key for me and well worth the money.

You can visit CFP UTah’s web site at http://www.cfputah.com/ and see where Larry and his partners are next offering classes.

I’ve mailed off my applications and now its the waiting game, but once I receive my permits I will be able to legally carry in all of the states listed below in BLUE.
Pretty cool, why aren’t you doing it?

Carry States

As for Nevada, which I’d like to obtain, they now allow non-resident permits however they require that you attend the required class within the state of Nevada, this prevents people like Larry and folks from offering it as well. Sounds like a good excuse to take a trip to Las Vegas! As for California, just forget it. They are one of the worst as a non-resident just plan on never having CA.